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== STOP READING PLEASE ==
Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult, really!
== '''TODO: Fix this it's wrong right now!!!''' ==


Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult!
Читати по-Українському на сторінка [[Редагування]].
 
== This is too complicated ==
Send me an email at daniel.centore@gmail.com including everything you've got (lyrics, chords, credits, links to renditions) and we'll add the song at our convenience and discretion.


Читати по-Українському на сторінка [[Редагування]].
Typed copies are strongly preferred. If you just have pictures or scans, that's fine too, but it will be lower priority given the added work required for us to type it.


== Creating a Page ==
== Creating a Page ==
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* Писаний Камінь
* Писаний Камінь


If multiple titles are in common use, use the one that is not the first line of the song (''ex.'' use "При ватрі", not "Сіріли у сумерку").
If multiple titles are in common use, you should generally use these guidelines:
* Prefer titles which are NOT from the first line of the song (e.g. prefer "При ватрі" to "Сіріли у сумерку")
* Prefer titles which are not the purpose of the song (e.g. prefer "Чи знаєш ти" to "Курінна пісня Тих Що Греблі Рвуть", and prefer "Ми діти українські" to "Новацька пісня")
* Prefer titles which come from the chorus of the song to those from the body (e.g. prefer "Мамо" to "Спалена пісня")
 
These are guidelines, not hard rules, and you should exercise your best judgement here - if a song title which "violates" these rules is vastly more recognizable, feel free to use it.
 
We will make redirects for alternate names later.
 
Try to make the song name unambiguous. "Іванку" isn't a great name because that could be a few songs. "[[Іванку, Іванку, з того боку ярку]]" is better. Disambiguators can also be used in the title (e.g. "[[Мамо (Майданек)]]" is much less ambiguous than "Мамо").


After searching, click the text that says '''Create the page "''Назва пісня''" on this wiki!''' This will open an editor.
After searching, click the text that says '''Create the page "''Назва пісня''" on this wiki!''' This will open an editor.


== Sample ==
== Sample ==
We recommend copying the following example as your starting point:
We recommend copying the following example as your starting point. You can see the results of this code at [[Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка]]. It might not match up exactly if that page has been edited since this article was written.
<pre>
<pre>
[[Category:Пісні]]
[[Category:Співаник]]
[[Category:Unsorted]]
<credits>
<credits>
Слова: Юрій Старосольський
Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
Музика: Юрій Пясецький
</credits>
</credits>
<spiv>
;C                G7
:Чи є в світі молодиця,
;                  C
:Як та Гандзя білолиця?
;;F                  G7
::Ой, скажіте, добрі люди,
;;                  C
::Що зі мною тепер буде? (2)
!Приспів:
; G7            C
:Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка,
; G          C
:Гандзя мила, як голубка!
; F            C
:Гандзя рибка, Гандзя птичка,
; G7          C
:Гандзя цяця-молодичка!
Гандзю моя, Гандзю мила,
Чим ти мене напоїла?
::Чи любистком, чи чарами,
::Чи солодкими словами? (2)


<spiv>
!Приспів
; Am        E          Am        E
 
:Сіріли у сумерку півночі шатра,
Важка ж моя гірка доля,
;    Am            Dm          Am      E
Знать, такая Божа воля,
:Застиг, мов у чорному безрусі, ліс,
::Щоб ніченьки я не спав,
;        Am            E          Am        E
::За тобою пропадав! (2)
:Лиш ясним промінням іскрилася ватра
 
;    D      E            Am
!Приспів
:І сипала зорям привіт.
 
:
Чи я мало сходив вітру?
;        G                    C
Чи я мало бачив цвіту?
:Над ватрою постаті юні, хлоп’ячі,
::Чим калина найкрасніша?
;    G                      C                E
::Чому Гандзя наймиліша? (2)
:Заслухані в золото слів, що лились,
 
;        Am        E              Am    E
!Приспів
:Про славу минулу, про мрії гарячі,
 
;        D                E          Am
Як на мене щиро гляне -
:Про волю, що прийде колись.
Серце моє, як цвіт в'яне,
:
::А як стане щебетати -
:Заслухались кедри ґорґанської ночі
::Сам не знаю, що діяти... (2)
:І гомін ішов по долинах, верхах.
:Горіли завзяттям юнацькії очі
:І сила родилась  в серцях.
:
:Погасло багаття, горіли ще мрії,
:Кінчила свій лет заворожена ніч,
:Далеко на сході багріли обрії
:Воскресній зірниці устріч.
</spiv>
</spiv>
 
== Виконання ==
== Виконнаня ==
* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooikpCU6s8 Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_B-yvDCTM Оксана Муха, Капела "Трембіта"]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]
</pre>
</pre>


== Analysis ==
== Analysis ==
Let's go through this piece by piece.
Let's go through this piece by piece.
<br /><br />
 
<pre>[[Category:Пісні]]
=== Credits ===
[[Category:Співаник]]
Everything in-between the two &lt;credits&gt; tags is rendered as credits. Include whatever is known based on the formats below. Feel free to add extra information if known.
[[Category:Unsorted]]</pre>
 
<br />
<pre>
* The first line adds the category "Пісні", which must be included for all songs.
<credits>
* The second line adds the category "Співаник." Remove this line for any songs that would be unusual in a spivanyk (''ex.'' таборові пісні).
Народна
* The third line adds the category "Unsorted." Leave this alone and a moderator will sort it for you.
</credits>
<br />
</pre>
<pre>
<credits>
Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
</credits>
</pre>
<pre>
<credits>
Слова: Данило Данилович
Музика: Борис Борисович і Володя Володйович
</credits>
</pre>
<pre>
<pre>
<credits>
<credits>
Слова: Юрій Старосольський
Вовча Тропа Ю2-Б (2021р)
Музика: Юрій Пясецький
Комендантка: Діянка Завадівська
Слова: Мако Завадівський і Зезя Завадівська
Мелодія: "Panamericana" - Max Zegers
</credits>
</credits>
</pre>
</pre>
<br />
 
These lines are for credits. Everything inside the <nowiki><credits></nowiki> tags will be formatted for you automatically.
=== Lyrics ===
<br /><br />
Everything in-between the two &lt;spiv&gt; tags is interpreted as lyrics and chords. Lines should be preceded with one of these characters to indicate what type of line it is:
 
* ; Chord line
* : Lyric line
* ;; Indented chord line
* :: Indented lyric line
* ! Instruction line (usually "!Приспів:" or "!Приспів")
 
If a line is not preceded with any of these characters, we assume it is a lyric line for convenience. Never omit the lyric colon if the preceding line is a chord because then the chords won't align properly.
 
If you do not have chords for the song, make sure to tick the "Needs chords" category at the bottom to keep our to-do lists up to date.
 
=== Extra Info ===
Here are some common extra sections. Feel free to add your own if relevant:
 
<pre>
<pre>
<spiv>
== Історія ==
; Am        E          Am        E
Some stuff happened.
:Сіріли у сумерку півночі шатра,
;    Am            Dm          Am      E
:Застиг, мов у чорному безрусі, ліс,
;        Am            E          Am        E
:Лиш ясним промінням іскрилася ватра
;    D      E            Am
:І сипала зорям привіт.
:
...
</spiv>
</pre>
</pre>
<br />
 
This section is for the lyrics. Put all lyrics between the <nowiki><spiv></nowiki> tags. Prefix any lines that are for chords with a semicolon and any regular lyrics with a colon. If you are copying and pasting, make sure the chords line up properly with the line below them. Use spaces for alignment. Only include a set of chords once; omit them in verses with identical chords.
<br /><br />
<pre>
<pre>
== Виконнаня ==
== Ігра ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooikpCU6s8 Квітка Цісик]
Here's how to play the game with this song.
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_B-yvDCTM Оксана Муха, Капела "Трембіта"]
</pre>
</pre>
<br />


Include your favourite rendition(s) in this section. In general, avoid very low quality renditions such as those sung at a ватра unless no alternative is known to exist. Just follow the format:
=== Renditions ===
<br /><br />
At the very end, include a list of renditions of the song. Songs higher in the list should be better quality with lyrics more similar to those of the співаник, while lower ones should be of poorer quality with lyrics diverging from those of the spivanyk. Really try to find at least one rendition. If you cannot find any, make sure to tick the "Needs audio" category before saving.
 
<pre>
<pre>
* [URL Artist]
== Виконання ==
* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]
</pre>
</pre>
<br />
 
Click "Show Preview" to make sure things look right and "Save Page" if they do!
== Categories ==
Before saving you will find a number of categories. Tick those that are applicable.
 
* Every song should be in one of these categories: [[:Category:Пісні|Українські Пісні]], [[:Category:Беларускія|Беларускія Пісні]], [[:Category:Not Slavic|Not Slavic]]
* Add the song to any other categories which match
* Select any "Needs" categories applicable (e.g. Needs chords).


== Making a Redirect ==
== Making a Redirect ==
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</pre>
</pre>
<br />
<br />
Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page.
* Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page.
* Keep the square brackets.
* Do not add any categories.
* Save
 
Now if people search for the alternative name, they will be redirected to the main page. The alternative name will also be listed in the index in future print editions (provided we choose to include the song) and in the app.

Latest revision as of 04:07, 21 July 2023

Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult, really!

Читати по-Українському на сторінка Редагування.

This is too complicated[ ]

Send me an email at daniel.centore@gmail.com including everything you've got (lyrics, chords, credits, links to renditions) and we'll add the song at our convenience and discretion.

Typed copies are strongly preferred. If you just have pictures or scans, that's fine too, but it will be lower priority given the added work required for us to type it.

Creating a Page[ ]

Start by searching for the name of the song with the search bar. Make sure the 1st letter is capitalized and all subsequent letters lowercase (except proper nouns).

Examples:

  • При ватрі
  • Ой ти, Галю
  • Біла хата в саду
  • Писаний Камінь

If multiple titles are in common use, you should generally use these guidelines:

  • Prefer titles which are NOT from the first line of the song (e.g. prefer "При ватрі" to "Сіріли у сумерку")
  • Prefer titles which are not the purpose of the song (e.g. prefer "Чи знаєш ти" to "Курінна пісня Тих Що Греблі Рвуть", and prefer "Ми діти українські" to "Новацька пісня")
  • Prefer titles which come from the chorus of the song to those from the body (e.g. prefer "Мамо" to "Спалена пісня")

These are guidelines, not hard rules, and you should exercise your best judgement here - if a song title which "violates" these rules is vastly more recognizable, feel free to use it.

We will make redirects for alternate names later.

Try to make the song name unambiguous. "Іванку" isn't a great name because that could be a few songs. "Іванку, Іванку, з того боку ярку" is better. Disambiguators can also be used in the title (e.g. "Мамо (Майданек)" is much less ambiguous than "Мамо").

After searching, click the text that says Create the page "Назва пісня" on this wiki! This will open an editor.

Sample[ ]

We recommend copying the following example as your starting point. You can see the results of this code at Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка. It might not match up exactly if that page has been edited since this article was written.

<credits>
Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
</credits>
<spiv>
;C                 G7
:Чи є в світі молодиця,
;                  C
:Як та Гандзя білолиця?
;;F                  G7
::Ой, скажіте, добрі люди,
;;                  C
::Що зі мною тепер буде? (2)

!Приспів:
; G7            C
:Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка,
; G           C
:Гандзя мила, як голубка!
; F             C
:Гандзя рибка, Гандзя птичка,
; G7          C
:Гандзя цяця-молодичка!

Гандзю моя, Гандзю мила,
Чим ти мене напоїла?
::Чи любистком, чи чарами,
::Чи солодкими словами? (2)

!Приспів

Важка ж моя гірка доля,
Знать, такая Божа воля,
::Щоб ніченьки я не спав,
::За тобою пропадав! (2)

!Приспів

Чи я мало сходив вітру?
Чи я мало бачив цвіту?
::Чим калина найкрасніша?
::Чому Гандзя наймиліша? (2)

!Приспів

Як на мене щиро гляне -
Серце моє, як цвіт в'яне,
::А як стане щебетати -
::Сам не знаю, що діяти... (2)
</spiv>
== Виконання ==
* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]

Analysis[ ]

Let's go through this piece by piece.

Credits[ ]

Everything in-between the two <credits> tags is rendered as credits. Include whatever is known based on the formats below. Feel free to add extra information if known.

<credits>
Народна
</credits>
<credits>
Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
</credits>
<credits>
Слова: Данило Данилович
Музика: Борис Борисович і Володя Володйович
</credits>
<credits>
Вовча Тропа Ю2-Б (2021р)
Комендантка: Діянка Завадівська
Слова: Мако Завадівський і Зезя Завадівська
Мелодія: "Panamericana" - Max Zegers
</credits>

Lyrics[ ]

Everything in-between the two <spiv> tags is interpreted as lyrics and chords. Lines should be preceded with one of these characters to indicate what type of line it is:

  • ; Chord line
  • : Lyric line
  • ;; Indented chord line
  • :: Indented lyric line
  • ! Instruction line (usually "!Приспів:" or "!Приспів")

If a line is not preceded with any of these characters, we assume it is a lyric line for convenience. Never omit the lyric colon if the preceding line is a chord because then the chords won't align properly.

If you do not have chords for the song, make sure to tick the "Needs chords" category at the bottom to keep our to-do lists up to date.

Extra Info[ ]

Here are some common extra sections. Feel free to add your own if relevant:

== Історія ==
Some stuff happened.
== Ігра ==
Here's how to play the game with this song.

Renditions[ ]

At the very end, include a list of renditions of the song. Songs higher in the list should be better quality with lyrics more similar to those of the співаник, while lower ones should be of poorer quality with lyrics diverging from those of the spivanyk. Really try to find at least one rendition. If you cannot find any, make sure to tick the "Needs audio" category before saving.

== Виконання ==
* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]

Categories[ ]

Before saving you will find a number of categories. Tick those that are applicable.

Making a Redirect[ ]

If there is another *popular* title for a song, create a page for it and make the content of that page:

#REDIRECT [[Назва пісня]]


  • Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page.
  • Keep the square brackets.
  • Do not add any categories.
  • Save

Now if people search for the alternative name, they will be redirected to the main page. The alternative name will also be listed in the index in future print editions (provided we choose to include the song) and in the app.