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Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult, really!

Читати по-Українському на сторінка Редагування.

This is too complicated[ ]

Send me an email at daniel.centore@gmail.com including everything you've got (lyrics, chords, credits, links to renditions) and we'll add the song at our convenience and discretion.

Typed copies are strongly preferred. If you just have pictures or scans, that's fine too, but it will be lower priority given the added work required for us to type it.

Creating a Page[ ]

Start by searching for the name of the song with the search bar. Make sure the 1st letter is capitalized and all subsequent letters lowercase (except proper nouns).

Examples:

При ватрі
Ой ти, Галю
Біла хата в саду
Писаний Камінь

If multiple titles are in common use, you should generally use these guidelines:

Prefer titles which are NOT from the first line of the song (e.g. prefer "При ватрі" to "Сіріли у сумерку")
Prefer titles which are not the purpose of the song (e.g. prefer "Чи знаєш ти" to "Курінна пісня Тих Що Греблі Рвуть", and prefer "Ми діти українські" to "Новацька пісня")
Prefer titles which come from the chorus of the song to those from the body (e.g. prefer "Мамо" to "Спалена пісня")

These are guidelines, not hard rules, and you should exercise your best judgement here - if a song title which "violates" these rules is vastly more recognizable, feel free to use it.

We will make redirects for alternate names later.

Try to make the song name unambiguous. "Іванку" isn't a great name because that could be a few songs. "Іванку, Іванку, з того боку ярку" is better. Disambiguators can also be used in the title (e.g. "Мамо (Майданек)" is much less ambiguous than "Мамо").

After searching, click the text that says Create the page "Назва пісня" on this wiki! This will open an editor.

Sample[ ]

We recommend copying the following example as your starting point. You can see the results of this code at Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка. It might not match up exactly if that page has been edited since this article was written.

<credits>
Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
</credits>
<spiv>
;C                 G7
:Чи є в світі молодиця,
;                  C
:Як та Гандзя білолиця?
;;F                  G7
::Ой, скажіте, добрі люди,
;;                  C
::Що зі мною тепер буде? (2)

!Приспів:
; G7            C
:Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка,
; G           C
:Гандзя мила, як голубка!
; F             C
:Гандзя рибка, Гандзя птичка,
; G7          C
:Гандзя цяця-молодичка!

Гандзю моя, Гандзю мила,
Чим ти мене напоїла?
::Чи любистком, чи чарами,
::Чи солодкими словами? (2)

!Приспів

Важка ж моя гірка доля,
Знать, такая Божа воля,
::Щоб ніченьки я не спав,
::За тобою пропадав! (2)

!Приспів

Чи я мало сходив вітру?
Чи я мало бачив цвіту?
::Чим калина найкрасніша?
::Чому Гандзя наймиліша? (2)

!Приспів

Як на мене щиро гляне -
Серце моє, як цвіт в'яне,
::А як стане щебетати -
::Сам не знаю, що діяти... (2)
</spiv>
== Виконання ==
* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]

Analysis[ ]

Let's go through this piece by piece.

Credits[ ]

Everything in-between the two <credits> tags is rendered as credits. Include whatever is known based on the formats below. Feel free to add extra information if known.

<credits>
Народна
</credits>

<credits>
Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
</credits>

<credits>
Слова: Данило Данилович
Музика: Борис Борисович і Володя Володйович
</credits>

<credits>
Вовча Тропа Ю2-Б (2021р)
Комендантка: Діянка Завадівська
Слова: Мако Завадівський і Зезя Завадівська
Мелодія: "Panamericana" - Max Zegers
</credits>

Lyrics[ ]

Everything in-between the two <spiv> tags is interpreted as lyrics and chords. Lines should be preceded with one of these characters to indicate what type of line it is:

; Chord line
: Lyric line
;; Indented chord line
:: Indented lyric line
! Instruction line (usually "!Приспів:" or "!Приспів")

If a line is not preceded with any of these characters, we assume it is a lyric line for convenience. Never omit the lyric colon if the preceding line is a chord because then the chords won't align properly.

If you do not have chords for the song, make sure to tick the "Needs chords" category at the bottom to keep our to-do lists up to date.

Extra Info[ ]

Here are some common extra sections. Feel free to add your own if relevant:

== Історія ==
Some stuff happened.

== Ігра ==
Here's how to play the game with this song.

Renditions[ ]

At the very end, include a list of renditions of the song. Songs higher in the list should be better quality with lyrics more similar to those of the співаник, while lower ones should be of poorer quality with lyrics diverging from those of the spivanyk. Really try to find at least one rendition. If you cannot find any, make sure to tick the "Needs audio" category before saving.

== Виконання ==
* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]

Categories[ ]

Before saving you will find a number of categories. Tick those that are applicable.

Every song should be in one of these categories: Українські Пісні, Беларускія Пісні, Not Slavic
Add the song to any other categories which match
Select any "Needs" categories applicable (e.g. Needs chords).

Making a Redirect[ ]

If there is another *popular* title for a song, create a page for it and make the content of that page:

#REDIRECT [[Назва пісня]]

Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page.
Keep the square brackets.
Do not add any categories.
Save

Now if people search for the alternative name, they will be redirected to the main page. The alternative name will also be listed in the index in future print editions (provided we choose to include the song) and in the app.

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
-NOTE: THIS PAGE IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
+Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult, really!
-Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult!
+Читати по-Українському на сторінка [[Редагування]].
-Читати по-Українському на сторінка [[Редагування]].
+== This is too complicated ==
+Send me an email at daniel.centore@gmail.com including everything you've got (lyrics, chords, credits, links to renditions) and we'll add the song at our convenience and discretion.
-== Coding is too complicated ==
+Typed copies are strongly preferred. If you just have pictures or scans, that's fine too, but it will be lower priority given the added work required for us to type it.
-I feel you. Send me an email at daniel.centore@gmail.com including everything you've got (lyrics, chords, credits, links to renditions) and I'll add the song at my convenience and discretion. If you are typing the chords, use a monospace font, where every character is the same width (e.g. Consolas) so the chords and lyrics are certain to line up the same when I view them.
 == Creating a Page ==
@@ Line 17: / Line 17: @@
 * Писаний Камінь
-If multiple titles are in common use, use the one that is NOT the first line of the song (e.g. use "При ватрі", not "Сіріли у сумерку").
+If multiple titles are in common use, you should generally use these guidelines:
+* Prefer titles which are NOT from the first line of the song (e.g. prefer "При ватрі" to "Сіріли у сумерку")
+* Prefer titles which are not the purpose of the song (e.g. prefer "Чи знаєш ти" to "Курінна пісня Тих Що Греблі Рвуть", and prefer "Ми діти українські" to "Новацька пісня")
+* Prefer titles which come from the chorus of the song to those from the body (e.g. prefer "Мамо" to "Спалена пісня")
+These are guidelines, not hard rules, and you should exercise your best judgement here - if a song title which "violates" these rules is vastly more recognizable, feel free to use it.
+We will make redirects for alternate names later.
+Try to make the song name unambiguous. "Іванку" isn't a great name because that could be a few songs. "[[Іванку, Іванку, з того боку ярку]]" is better. Disambiguators can also be used in the title (e.g. "[[Мамо (Майданек)]]" is much less ambiguous than "Мамо").
 After searching, click the text that says '''Create the page "''Назва пісня''" on this wiki!''' This will open an editor.
 == Sample ==
-TODO: Replace with a song including indentation and a приспів
+We recommend copying the following example as your starting point. You can see the results of this code at [[Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка]]. It might not match up exactly if that page has been edited since this article was written.
-We recommend copying the following example as your starting point. You can see the results of this code at [[При ватрі]]. It might not match up exactly if that page has been edited since this article was written.
 <pre>
 <credits>
-Слова: Юрій Старосольський
+Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
-Музика: Юрій Пясецький
 </credits>
 <spiv>
-;Am       E       Am       E
+;C                 G7
-:Сіріли у сумерку півночі шатра,
+:Чи є в світі молодиця,
-;   Am         Dm       Am       E
+;                  C
-:Застиг, мов у чорному безрусі, ліс,
+:Як та Гандзя білолиця?
-;    Am        E      Am       E
+;;F                  G7
-:Лиш ясним промінням іскрилася ватра
+::Ой, скажіте, добрі люди,
-;   D     E        Am
+;;                  C
-:І сипала зорям привіт.
+::Що зі мною тепер буде? (2)
-:
-;    G              C
+!Приспів:
-:Над ватрою постаті юні, хлоп’ячі,
+; G7            C
-;   G               C          E
+:Гандзя душка, Гандзя любка,
-:Заслухані в золото слів, що лились,
+; G           C
-;    Am      E         Am     E
+:Гандзя мила, як голубка!
-:Про славу минулу, про мрії гарячі,
+; F             C
-;    D          E      Am
+:Гандзя рибка, Гандзя птичка,
-:Про волю, що прийде колись.
+; G7          C
-:
+:Гандзя цяця-молодичка!
-:Заслухались кедри ґорґанської ночі
-:І гомін ішов по долинах, верхах.
+Гандзю моя, Гандзю мила,
-:Горіли завзяттям юнацькії очі
+Чим ти мене напоїла?
-:І сила родилась в серцях.
+::Чи любистком, чи чарами,
-:
+::Чи солодкими словами? (2)
-:Погасло багаття, горіли ще мрії,
-:Кінчила свій лет заворожена ніч,
+!Приспів
-:Далеко на сході багріли обрії
-:Воскресній зірниці устріч.
+Важка ж моя гірка доля,
+Знать, такая Божа воля,
+::Щоб ніченьки я не спав,
+::За тобою пропадав! (2)
+!Приспів
+Чи я мало сходив вітру?
+Чи я мало бачив цвіту?
+::Чим калина найкрасніша?
+::Чому Гандзя наймиліша? (2)
+!Приспів
+Як на мене щиро гляне -
+Серце моє, як цвіт в'яне,
+::А як стане щебетати -
+::Сам не знаю, що діяти... (2)
 </spiv>
-== Історія ==
+== Виконання ==
-Пластова пісня "При ватрі" була написана в 1947 році в еміґрації.
+* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
-== Виконнаня ==
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
-* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_B-yvDCTM Оксана Муха, Капела "Трембіта"]
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
-* [https://soundcloud.com/iryna-masljuk/01a Iryna Masljuk]
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
-* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooikpCU6s8 Квітка Цісик]
+* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]
-* [https://soundcloud.com/yulia-smaga-singer/ufwjzztrd3pf Юлія Смага]
-* [https://soundcloud.com/kl4jgm5sn2wt/14-pry-vatri?in=kl4jgm5sn2wt/sets/07a ЮМПЗ`07]
-* [https://soundcloud.com/kl4jgm5sn2wt/yl6ffsd4bcpk?in=kl4jgm5sn2wt/sets/g2suoltzl5mj Невідомий]
 </pre>
@@ Line 74: / Line 94: @@
 === Credits ===
-Everything in-between the two "credits" tags is rendered in italics.
+Everything in-between the two &lt;credits&gt; tags is rendered as credits. Include whatever is known based on the formats below. Feel free to add extra information if known.
+<pre>
+<credits>
+Народна
+</credits>
+</pre>
+<pre>
+<credits>
+Слова і музика: Денис Бонковський
+</credits>
+</pre>
+<pre>
+<credits>
+Слова: Данило Данилович
+Музика: Борис Борисович і Володя Володйович
+</credits>
+</pre>
+<pre>
+<credits>
+Вовча Тропа Ю2-Б (2021р)
+Комендантка: Діянка Завадівська
+Слова: Мако Завадівський і Зезя Завадівська
+Мелодія: "Panamericana" - Max Zegers
+</credits>
+</pre>
 === Lyrics ===
-Everything in-between the two "spiv" tags is interpreted as lyrics. Lines should be preceded with one of these characters to indicate what type of line it is:
+Everything in-between the two &lt;spiv&gt; tags is interpreted as lyrics and chords. Lines should be preceded with one of these characters to indicate what type of line it is:
 * ; Chord line
@@ Line 83: / Line 128: @@
 * ;; Indented chord line
 * :: Indented lyric line
+* ! Instruction line (usually "!Приспів:" or "!Приспів")
-If a line is not preceded with any of these characters, we assume it is a lyric line. Never do this if the preceding line is a chord because then we can't line up the chords properly.
+If a line is not preceded with any of these characters, we assume it is a lyric line for convenience. Never omit the lyric colon if the preceding line is a chord because then the chords won't align properly.
+If you do not have chords for the song, make sure to tick the "Needs chords" category at the bottom to keep our to-do lists up to date.
 === Extra Info ===
-Make new sections on this pattern:
+Here are some common extra sections. Feel free to add your own if relevant:
 <pre>
 == Історія ==
 Some stuff happened.
+</pre>
+<pre>
+== Ігра ==
+Here's how to play the game with this song.
 </pre>
 === Renditions ===
-At the very end, include a list of renditions of the song. Earlier songs should be higher quality with lyrics more similar to those of the співаник, while later ones should be lower quality. Try to find at least one rendition. If you cannot find any, make sure to tick the "Needs music" category before saving.
+At the very end, include a list of renditions of the song. Songs higher in the list should be better quality with lyrics more similar to those of the співаник, while lower ones should be of poorer quality with lyrics diverging from those of the spivanyk. Really try to find at least one rendition. If you cannot find any, make sure to tick the "Needs audio" category before saving.
+<pre>
+== Виконання ==
+* [https://youtu.be/4zg6vqUHBMk?t=28m50s Квітка Цісик]
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW5HFKFM7-w Дмитро Гнатюк]
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i27j8z59c5w капела "Карпати"]
+* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-9dtNvb3tk Nataliya Shelepnytska]
+* [https://soundcloud.com/volodymyr-fedak/tun6quqvdlsh Борщ]
+</pre>
 == Categories ==
-Before saving you will find a number of categories. Tick those that are applicable. Make sure to:
+Before saving you will find a number of categories. Tick those that are applicable.
-* Always select [[:Category:Пісні|Пісні]], unless it's a Таборовий пісень
+* Every song should be in one of these categories: [[:Category:Пісні|Українські Пісні]], [[:Category:Беларускія|Беларускія Пісні]], [[:Category:Not Slavic|Not Slavic]]
-* You will often select [[:Category:Основні пісні|Основні пісні]]. See the description on that page for guidelines.
+* Add the song to any other categories which match
-* See [[Категорії]] for the rough relationships of categories. These are a guideline, not a rule. Most categories have a description of what should be included if unsure.
 * Select any "Needs" categories applicable (e.g. Needs chords).
@@ Line 111: / Line 173: @@
 </pre>
 <br />
-Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page. Keep the square brackets.
+* Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page.
+* Keep the square brackets.
+* Do not add any categories.
+* Save
+Now if people search for the alternative name, they will be redirected to the main page. The alternative name will also be listed in the index in future print editions (provided we choose to include the song) and in the app.

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