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NOTE: THIS PAGE IS A WORK IN PROGRESS
Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult!
Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult!


Читати по-Українському на сторінка [[Редагування]].
Читати по-Українському на сторінка [[Редагування]].
== Coding is too complicated ==
I feel you. Send me an email at daniel.centore@gmail.com including everything you've got (lyrics, chords, credits, links to renditions) and I'll add the song at my convenience and discretion. If you are typing the chords, use a monospace font, where every character is the same width (e.g. Consolas) so the chords and lyrics are certain to line up the same when I view them.


== Creating a Page ==
== Creating a Page ==
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* Писаний Камінь
* Писаний Камінь


If multiple titles are in common use, use the one that is not the first line of the song (''ex.'' use "При ватрі", not "Сіріли у сумерку").
If multiple titles are in common use, use the one that is NOT the first line of the song (e.g. use "При ватрі", not "Сіріли у сумерку").


After searching, click the text that says '''Create the page "''Назва пісня''" on this wiki!''' This will open an editor.
After searching, click the text that says '''Create the page "''Назва пісня''" on this wiki!''' This will open an editor.


== Sample ==
== Sample ==
We recommend copying the following example as your starting point:
TODO: Replace with a song including indentation and a приспів
 
We recommend copying the following example as your starting point. You can see the results of this code at [[При ватрі]]. It might not match up exactly if that page has been edited since this article was written.
<pre>
<pre>
[[Category:Пісні]]
[[Category:Співаник]]
[[Category:Unsorted]]
<credits>
<credits>
Слова: Юрій Старосольський
Слова: Юрій Старосольський
Музика: Юрій Пясецький
Музика: Юрій Пясецький
</credits>
</credits>
<spiv>
<spiv>
; Am       E           Am         E
;Am       E       Am       E
:Сіріли у сумерку півночі шатра,
:Сіріли у сумерку півночі шатра,
;     Am           Dm         Am      E
;   Am         Dm       Am      E
:Застиг, мов у чорному безрусі, ліс,
:Застиг, мов у чорному безрусі, ліс,
;         Am           E           Am       E
;   Am       E     Am       E
:Лиш ясним промінням іскрилася ватра
:Лиш ясним промінням іскрилася ватра
;   D       E             Am
;   D     E       Am
:І сипала зорям привіт.
:І сипала зорям привіт.
:
:
;       G                     C
;   G             C
:Над ватрою постаті юні, хлоп’ячі,
:Над ватрою постаті юні, хлоп’ячі,
;     G                       C               E
;   G               C         E
:Заслухані в золото слів, що лились,
:Заслухані в золото слів, що лились,
;       Am       E             Am    E
;   Am     E         Am    E
:Про славу минулу, про мрії гарячі,
:Про славу минулу, про мрії гарячі,
;       D               E           Am
;   D         E     Am
:Про волю, що прийде колись.
:Про волю, що прийде колись.
:
:
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:І гомін ішов по долинах, верхах.
:І гомін ішов по долинах, верхах.
:Горіли завзяттям юнацькії очі
:Горіли завзяттям юнацькії очі
:І сила родилась в серцях.
:І сила родилась в серцях.
:
:
:Погасло багаття, горіли ще мрії,
:Погасло багаття, горіли ще мрії,
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:Воскресній зірниці устріч.
:Воскресній зірниці устріч.
</spiv>
</spiv>
 
== Історія ==
Пластова пісня "При ватрі" була написана в 1947 році в еміґрації.
== Виконнаня ==
== Виконнаня ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_B-yvDCTM Оксана Муха, Капела "Трембіта"]
* [https://soundcloud.com/iryna-masljuk/01a Iryna Masljuk]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooikpCU6s8 Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooikpCU6s8 Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_B-yvDCTM Оксана Муха, Капела "Трембіта"]
* [https://soundcloud.com/yulia-smaga-singer/ufwjzztrd3pf Юлія Смага]
* [https://soundcloud.com/kl4jgm5sn2wt/14-pry-vatri?in=kl4jgm5sn2wt/sets/07a ЮМПЗ`07]
* [https://soundcloud.com/kl4jgm5sn2wt/yl6ffsd4bcpk?in=kl4jgm5sn2wt/sets/g2suoltzl5mj Невідомий]
</pre>
</pre>


== Analysis ==
== Analysis ==
Let's go through this piece by piece.
Let's go through this piece by piece.
<br /><br />
 
<pre>[[Category:Пісні]]
=== Credits ===
[[Category:Співаник]]
Everything in-between the two "credits" tags is rendered in italics.
[[Category:Unsorted]]</pre>
 
<br />
=== Lyrics ===
* The first line adds the category "Пісні", which must be included for all songs.
Everything in-between the two "spiv" tags is interpreted as lyrics. Lines should be preceded with one of these characters to indicate what type of line it is:
* The second line adds the category "Співаник." Remove this line for any songs that would be unusual in a spivanyk (''ex.'' таборові пісні).
 
* The third line adds the category "Unsorted." Leave this alone and a moderator will sort it for you.
* ; Chord line
<br />
* : Lyric line
* ;; Indented chord line
* :: Indented lyric line
 
If a line is not preceded with any of these characters, we assume it is a lyric line. Never do this if the preceding line is a chord because then we can't line up the chords properly.
 
=== Extra Info ===
Make new sections on this pattern:
<pre>
<pre>
<credits>
== Історія ==
Слова: Юрій Старосольський
Some stuff happened.
Музика: Юрій Пясецький
</credits>
</pre>
</pre>
<br />
These lines are for credits. Everything inside the <nowiki><credits></nowiki> tags will be formatted for you automatically.
<br /><br />
<pre>
<spiv>
; Am        E          Am        E
:Сіріли у сумерку півночі шатра,
;    Am            Dm          Am      E
:Застиг, мов у чорному безрусі, ліс,
;        Am            E          Am        E
:Лиш ясним промінням іскрилася ватра
;    D      E            Am
:І сипала зорям привіт.
:
...
</spiv>
</pre>
<br />
This section is for the lyrics. Put all lyrics between the <nowiki><spiv></nowiki> tags. Prefix any lines that are for chords with a semicolon and any regular lyrics with a colon. If you are copying and pasting, make sure the chords line up properly with the line below them. Use spaces for alignment. Only include a set of chords once; omit them in verses with identical chords.
<br /><br />
<pre>
== Виконнаня ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooikpCU6s8 Квітка Цісик]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_B-yvDCTM Оксана Муха, Капела "Трембіта"]
</pre>
<br />


Include your favourite rendition(s) in this section. In general, avoid very low quality renditions such as those sung at a ватра unless no alternative is known to exist. Just follow the format:
=== Renditions ===
<br /><br />
At the very end, include a list of renditions of the song. Earlier songs should be higher quality with lyrics more similar to those of the співаник, while later ones should be lower quality. Try to find at least one rendition. If you cannot find any, make sure to tick the "Needs music" category before saving.
<pre>
 
* [URL Artist]
== Categories ==
</pre>
Before saving you will find a number of categories. Tick those that are applicable. Make sure to:
<br />
 
Click "Show Preview" to make sure things look right and "Save Page" if they do!
* Always select [[:Category:Пісні|Пісні]], unless it's a Таборовий пісень
* You will often select [[:Category:Основні пісні|Основні пісні]]. See the description on that page for guidelines.
* See [[Категорії]] for the rough relationships of categories. These are a guideline, not a rule. Most categories have a description of what should be included if unsure.
* Select any "Needs" categories applicable (e.g. Needs chords).


== Making a Redirect ==
== Making a Redirect ==
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</pre>
</pre>
<br />
<br />
Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page.
Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page. Keep the square brackets.

Revision as of 04:23, 8 January 2018

NOTE: THIS PAGE IS A WORK IN PROGRESS

Creating and editing songs is fairly straightforward but requires you to use a little bit of code. It's not difficult!

Читати по-Українському на сторінка Редагування.

Coding is too complicated

I feel you. Send me an email at daniel.centore@gmail.com including everything you've got (lyrics, chords, credits, links to renditions) and I'll add the song at my convenience and discretion. If you are typing the chords, use a monospace font, where every character is the same width (e.g. Consolas) so the chords and lyrics are certain to line up the same when I view them.

Creating a Page

Start by searching for the name of the song with the search bar. Make sure the 1st letter is capitalized and all subsequent letters lowercase (except proper nouns).

Examples:

  • При ватрі
  • Ой ти, Галю
  • Біла хата в саду
  • Писаний Камінь

If multiple titles are in common use, use the one that is NOT the first line of the song (e.g. use "При ватрі", not "Сіріли у сумерку").

After searching, click the text that says Create the page "Назва пісня" on this wiki! This will open an editor.

Sample

TODO: Replace with a song including indentation and a приспів

We recommend copying the following example as your starting point. You can see the results of this code at При ватрі. It might not match up exactly if that page has been edited since this article was written.

<credits>
Слова: Юрій Старосольський
Музика: Юрій Пясецький
</credits>
<spiv>
;Am       E       Am       E
:Сіріли у сумерку півночі шатра,
;   Am         Dm       Am       E
:Застиг, мов у чорному безрусі, ліс,
;    Am        E      Am       E
:Лиш ясним промінням іскрилася ватра
;   D     E        Am
:І сипала зорям привіт.
:
;    G              C
:Над ватрою постаті юні, хлоп’ячі,
;   G               C          E
:Заслухані в золото слів, що лились,
;    Am      E         Am     E
:Про славу минулу, про мрії гарячі,
;    D          E      Am
:Про волю, що прийде колись.
:
:Заслухались кедри ґорґанської ночі
:І гомін ішов по долинах, верхах.
:Горіли завзяттям юнацькії очі
:І сила родилась в серцях.
:
:Погасло багаття, горіли ще мрії,
:Кінчила свій лет заворожена ніч,
:Далеко на сході багріли обрії
:Воскресній зірниці устріч.
</spiv>
== Історія ==
Пластова пісня "При ватрі" була написана в 1947 році в еміґрації.
== Виконнаня ==
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A_B-yvDCTM Оксана Муха, Капела "Трембіта"]
* [https://soundcloud.com/iryna-masljuk/01a Iryna Masljuk]
* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ooikpCU6s8 Квітка Цісик]
* [https://soundcloud.com/yulia-smaga-singer/ufwjzztrd3pf Юлія Смага]
* [https://soundcloud.com/kl4jgm5sn2wt/14-pry-vatri?in=kl4jgm5sn2wt/sets/07a ЮМПЗ`07]
* [https://soundcloud.com/kl4jgm5sn2wt/yl6ffsd4bcpk?in=kl4jgm5sn2wt/sets/g2suoltzl5mj Невідомий]

Analysis

Let's go through this piece by piece.

Credits

Everything in-between the two "credits" tags is rendered in italics.

Lyrics

Everything in-between the two "spiv" tags is interpreted as lyrics. Lines should be preceded with one of these characters to indicate what type of line it is:

  • ; Chord line
  • : Lyric line
  • ;; Indented chord line
  • :: Indented lyric line

If a line is not preceded with any of these characters, we assume it is a lyric line. Never do this if the preceding line is a chord because then we can't line up the chords properly.

Extra Info

Make new sections on this pattern:

== Історія ==
Some stuff happened.

Renditions

At the very end, include a list of renditions of the song. Earlier songs should be higher quality with lyrics more similar to those of the співаник, while later ones should be lower quality. Try to find at least one rendition. If you cannot find any, make sure to tick the "Needs music" category before saving.

Categories

Before saving you will find a number of categories. Tick those that are applicable. Make sure to:

  • Always select Пісні, unless it's a Таборовий пісень
  • You will often select Основні пісні. See the description on that page for guidelines.
  • See Категорії for the rough relationships of categories. These are a guideline, not a rule. Most categories have a description of what should be included if unsure.
  • Select any "Needs" categories applicable (e.g. Needs chords).

Making a Redirect

If there is another *popular* title for a song, create a page for it and make the content of that page:

#REDIRECT [[Назва пісня]]


Replace "Назва пісня" with the name of the original song page. Keep the square brackets.